Obama To McChrystal: “Shut Up And Obey!”

General Stanley McChrystal Commander, International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A)

General Stanley McChrystal

Alex Spillius writes on today’s London Telegraph, that the recent speech in London made by the Commander of Nato Forces, General Stanley A.  McChrystal “enraged”  US-OJT (On-the-Job-Training) President Barack Obama.  

I”m not exactly sure what Obama’s point of reference was. I mean, let’s be brutally honest here. In the war arena, I think a fair and unbiased comparison of credentials will give General McChrystal a slight advantage over President Obama. Let’s just see:

  • On one hand (according to Wikipedia), General McChrystal is the current Commander, International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and Commander, U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A). He previously served as Director, Joint Staff from August 2008 to June 2009 and as Commander, Joint Special Operations Command from 2003 to 2008, where he was credited with the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq. He assumed his current assignment on June 15, 2009. His father was Major General Herbert McChrystal. He was the fourth child in a family of five boys and a girl, all of whom would serve or marry into the military.  
  • On the other hand, while researching Barack Obama’s military experience, about the only thing I was able to uncover was that he once had a friend who had a GI Joe lunch box. 

So who do you feel more confident with when it comes to running the war in Afghanistan? Yet Obama reportedly threw a major hissy-fit over General McChrystal’s comments in London which prompted him to order the General to meet with him aboard Air Force One on the Copenhagen tarmack.

According to the article on The Telegraph:

In London, Gen McChrystal, who heads the 68,000 US troops in Afghanistan as well as the 100,000 Nato forces, flatly rejected proposals to switch to a strategy more reliant on drone missile strikes and special forces operations against al-Qaeda.

He told the Institute of International and Strategic Studies that the formula, which is favoured by Vice-President Joe Biden, would lead to “Chaos-istan”.

When asked whether he would support it, he said: “The short answer is: No.”

He went on to say: “Waiting does not prolong a favorable outcome. This effort will not remain winnable indefinitely, and nor will public support.”

Let me make this short and sweet. Obama and many other members of the left were quick to criticize the Intelligence gathering skills of the Bush administration.

Yet, it would appear that Obama’s intelligence wasn’t even up to the task of determining there was no point to fly to Copenhagen to lobby for the 2016 Olymics in Chicago.

Count me as one American who thinks this is one time President Mmm-Mmm-Mmm Barack Hussein Obama should mmm-maybe check his ego at the tent and listen carefully to what General McChrystal has to say.

But don’t count on it.  

Gerry Ashley

14 Responses to Obama To McChrystal: “Shut Up And Obey!”

  1. Tom Folkes says:

    At this point, it seems clear that the reason behind Obama’s apparent inability to offer anything rational with regards to military activity in Afghanistan, or anywhere else for that matter, is because winning this conflict, this “War on Terror”, is not on his agenda. Trying to get the Olympic games for Chicago in 2016 was certainly on his agenda. Apologizing for the US in foreign countries was on his agenda. But providing leadership as Commander in Chief? Not so much. We need to focus in on the real deal here. He wants to tear down this country, take control of all major aspects of our economy, make our military ineffective to the point where many of them quit in disgust, and then declare sufficient national emergency to put in his own “civilian police force, equal to the military in capability”, then proceed to making this country over according to some Marxist ideal that he was force fed as a child growing up outside of this country, and later as he sat at the feet of such stellar Americans as Bill Ayers, Sol Alinsky and Jeremiah Wright. I mean, come on, we’ve got to stop acting and saying as though we have any reason to expect something better from this guy! He is a radical leftist, tried and true! Nothing more, nothing less. He has surrounded himself with whack job appointees who are at least as lefty as he is, and some even more so. As for General McChrystal, I look for him to resign very soon rather than be in a position of betraying his troops by implementing Obama’s policies. Sorry folks, but the electorate of this nation did the dastardly deed, and we are simply seeing the “changes” that he himself said he would do. Turn out the lights, the party’s over! By the time we could possibly do something about changing the guard, all the damage will have been done. Ol’ Humpty just won’t be able to be put back together again. Many of us warned about this, but too many saw only what they wanted to see and heard only what they wanted to hear. Far wiser people than I have very eloquently told us for a long time that such foolishness on the part of a nation’s voters will lead to collapse, then subjugation. Ready or not, here it comes. People who don’t believe they have anything worth saving are the perfect fodder for his brand of idealism. We’ve been spoon fed the pablum that the US is evil, capitalism is evil, big business is evil, religion is evil, guns are evil, cars are evil, it goes on and on ….. what’s the old saying? People who don’t believe in something will fall for anything? If we look at the last election, it would seem that something over half of us are in that category now. We have only begun to see the dark days. The worst is still to come. Sounds apocalyptic, doesn’t it? Preposterous, isn’t it? Ask yourself this question: if someone had told you ten years ago that in 2008 we would elect a know nothing, do nothing, left wing radical narcissist who never had job in his life and had questionable US citizenship to the White House, what would your reaction have been? I’m reminded of the death scene in “Blade Runner”, where Rutger Hauer as the android whose programmed obsolescence has arrived, releases the white dove from his grasp and utters the words “Time to die.” The difference is that in the movie, at least, there was a fight for survival first.

    • Doug says:

      What Tom said. The economic policies of the current administration combined with a huge destabilizing foreign policy disaster in the middle east might just do the trick for our countrymen who are fed up with this experiment in Democracy.

  2. Gerry Ashley says:

    Excellent points, Tom. I don’t like the level of pessimism, but that’s because I’m a glass-half-full kind of person. Or maybe I’m just in Obamadenial. But I think the American public is waking up fast and has made it clear to their congressmen that this crap ain’t gonna fly and if they support it, they’d best pack their bags for the next election.

    However, the question needs to be asked: WILL THERE BE a “next” election? Or will Obama create an emergency that justifies (in HIS warped mind) suspending the Constitution which means suspending elections.

    I wouldn’t put it past him, but God help him if he DOES.

  3. Tom Folkes says:

    Your question is courageous, indeed provocative. As we watch and listen to the actions of this President and this Congress, it is difficult to envision them just giving up the complete power simply because a majority of voters might vote against them. No, I see these left wing zealots easily deciding that they know better, and, for the “good” of us all, suspending the Constitution and postponing the election, thus seating themselves indefinitely. They have every reason to believe that the vast majority of our citizens would just roll over and take it. Hell, the populations of our biggest cities would probably take to the streets in celebration, knock over a few buses, burn and loot a few shops, you know, standard happy stuff we see when their favorite team wins.

    • Gerry Ashley says:

      I may be off the mark here, but the public that voted for Mmm-mmm-mmm Barack Hussein Obama a year ago is not the same public today. Sure that element of society who voted for him simply because he was (partially) black (yet who call US racist if we disagree with his policies) will still support him.

      But the millions of people who simply voted for what they thought would be POSITIVE change only to find out the emperor has no clue have come to their senses. And, as George W. Bush once said,

      “Fool me once, shame on… uh… you. But if you fool me uh… we can’t get fooled again!”

      For all his weaknesses and in spite of what mistakes he made, compared to what we have to deal with in the White House now, I sure miss “W.”

  4. Tom Folkes says:

    “millions of people…..have come to their senses”
    I’m not sure that I believe that, but for the sake of argument, let’s say it is true. My response is “So?” Do you really think that translates to millions of people willing to make the personal sacrifice to take these goons out of office physically if their votes are ignored or disallowed in the first place? We have every reason to believe that the Senate election in Minnesota was stolen by the Dems, no, I mean REAL reasons, not like the election of 2000 in Florida, yet Franken sits in the Senate today without fear of any action on the part of the Minnesota voters. Sure, Gov. Pawlenty is making noises, but the Dems know they can stall THAT kind of action forever. I hear your glass-half-full optimism, but you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t “feel” the national will to do the hard things. The only guys willing to do that are pretty much all busy in Iraq and Afghanistan. The only other types who might be tough enough are a bunch of old geezers like myself, but the young crowd pretty much doesn’t even know what they are about to lose. Even worse, many of them are anxious to be a part of the “change”. Half a century of dumbing down the electorate has taken a fatal toll, and as Doug said in an earlier post, it hasn’t been by accident. Almost daily I am confronted by someone parroting the sentiment that “we all have the right to health care coverage” or some variation on that theme. When I try to draw them out as to where that right might come from, and question the obvious corollary that it burdens someone else to provide that care, I’m met with blank eyes, or derisive comments about “evil” insurance companies. Remember the old joke about being in a debate with an unarmed person? Well, those unarmed persons are now running the show. The inmates are running the asylum, etc. They are not subject to the same sort of logical debate that we are. They don’t care about debate in the first place, since this isn’t about rational concepts. It’s about feel good perceptions that have been instilled in them since childhood by a teaching establishment that sold out to the rantings of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Trotsky, and any number of more recent devotees to the same old tired ideas that any rational person knows only cost the world a hundred million or so lives while contributing zip to the betterment of mankind. Don’t bother them with facts, because they don’t care about your facts, and they already think that they are the elite and you are the dumb-as-dirt Bible thumping jerks that they just KNOW needs THEM to administer your lives for you. The time for talking is over, and they won that fight by TKO. Are there enough Americans to get up off the mat and come back swinging terrible swift blows? I don’t know. Give it another year or so and I think we’ll have our answer.

    • Tom,

      I agree with 99% of everything you say except the part about the TKO… Violence ain’t the answer here. I don’t think “coming out swinging” is the way… The last thing we need is some barking moonbat to “make a statement”. That will set our conservative movement back a decade.

  5. Tom Folkes says:

    OH, yeah, about GW. If he had been even half the conservative that Reagan was, we wouldn’t be in this pickle in the first place. Do I miss GW now that we have Obama? Yep, about like I’d miss the flu after being told I had pneumonia. I believe that he had a chance to render Liberalism as practiced by the Dems virtually unimportant in American politics by now. Instead, it’s the Republicans who are milling around in the political barnyard like chickens looking for something to eat in the dirt. They don’t appear to have any idea how to proceed against this tide of socialism, indeed many of them seem to favor some version of it themselves. Nor do they have any leadership, no front line spokesperson other than talk show hosts, who are out there effectively taking the war of ideas to the people. The only Cons out there who are genuine thinkers and talkers have already had their days in the seats of power, or recently lost bids for office. To quote DeNiro, “You got nothing! Nothing! If you had it, you woulda done it already!”
    Right now, the best we have, apparently, is Palin and she earned and spent most of her political capital in McCain’s failed bid for office. About half the people think she’s a doofus, and a third think she now has too much baggage. It may not matter anymore, since the MSM is going to protect their guy with a vicious zeal anyway. It is all a numbers game, and we don’t got the numbers. About the only hope for we conservatives is in another 40 to 60 years when the Muslims become the dominate political voice in America and most of the rest of the world. Whoa! That’s it! All we need to do is capitulate and convert now! Damn, why didn’t I think of that sooner? I could have saved you all from this rant.

  6. Tony Shelton says:

    Gerry and Tom,

    The major furor over General McChrystal is the fact that he spoke out in public. All military personnel are specifically forbidden to make public statements that could or might be construed as the official position of their branch of service, the military, or the administration. The Executive branch makes policy – the US Military is an instrument of that policy. The General is free to communicate his position to his superiors, but not the media.
    That being said, the one thing that sustains my faith and hope for this country is our military services. When one is inducted into the service of this country, they swear an oath to protect and defend THE CONSTITUTION against all enemies – foreign and domestic and to obey the LAWFUL orders of those appointed over them. The oath is not to an individual. The other thing to remember is that the oath does not expire. As a retired service member, I am still bound by that same oath. The declaration of martial law, which would be required in any attempt to suspend the Constitution, would put in power the same service members who swore an oath to protect and defend that Constitution. Don’t think for one minute that the veterans and active duty servicemen and -women will let the country go without a fight. The United States of America will not become a communist or socialist country in the foreseeable future.

    • Stoutcat says:

      First off, thank you for your service to our country.
      Secondly, what you said gives me hope that we can in fact reverse course and get the country on a better path. I don’t believe martial law is the answer, but given our active-duty and retired servicemen and -women, and the vast beating heart of flyover country, I think a course correction is inevitable. We may see its beginnings in the VA and NJ governor’s races this year, and in a massive turn-over in Congress next year. And I don’t mean just Democrats. I think we’ll see a lot of longer-term Congresspeople voted out and a lot of new (and hopefully less corrupt) faces voted in.

  7. Tom Folkes says:

    Tony & Stoutcat,
    I,too, swore the oath as you did, and have hoped for a long time that we former and retired military might be a force for our national salvation should it come to that. Tony, I hope that you are right and I am wrong. I agree that there may be some incumbents turned out when we next get the chance. Like Stoutcat, I think it will be healthy for both major parties to feel that sting. I also believe, however, that the liberal left will always go too far. It seems to be in their genetic makeup. We only need look at history to see the awful extent to which their ideology will drive them, and the facility they have for denial. Thanks to you both for dousing my pessimism with some needed cold water.

    • Stoutcat says:

      Tom, I think you mis-understood me–I have the utmost gratitude for those who have served and are serving our country, but I am not among those honorable numbers. Heck, if this were one of Heinlein’s universes, I wouldn’t even be allowed to vote! (And by the way, if you haven’t read Starship Troopers, please don’t assume the awful movie of the same name comes close to doing it justice; it doesn’t. Read the book for yourself!)

      And thank you, too, for your service, Tom.

  8. Solana2012 says:

    Tony: Thanks!
    Tom: You Da Man!

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